Tab Mapper

The tab mapper is a handy little tool that will render a guitar tab file with graphic chord diagrams displayed alongside. This comes in handy for people who just don't have every single chord shape memorized. Just plug in the web site address of a valid .tab or .crd file and hit "Go". In general, the tab mapper does a better job with printer friendly URLs. If there is more than one way to play a chord, the tab mapper will choose the most common shape. To see other fingerings, click on the chord diagram and you will be taken to the chord calculator.

Gsus4 chord {3 3 0 0 3 3} chord
G5 chord {x x x 0 3 3} chord

Original file located @ https://www.tonymacx86.com/threads/port-your-own-mac-games.326959/.

Show me scales that sound good with the chords in this song: G4, G5.

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Port Your Own Mac Games!.

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  • Start date Aug 30, 2023

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Waiting for Sonoma to download before trying this. No need for a developer account either!.

It's now even easier to play PC games on Mac with this Apple Game Porting Toolkit installer ? iMore

Installing Apple's Game Porting Toolkit just got easier thanks to a new tool.
apple.news

GitHub - installaware/AGPT: Apple Game Porting Toolkit Installer

Apple Game Porting Toolkit Installer. Contribute to installaware/AGPT development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com
 

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craighazan said:
Waiting for Sonoma to download before trying this. No need for a developer account either!.

It's now even easier to play PC games on Mac with this Apple Game Porting Toolkit installer ? iMore

Installing Apple's Game Porting Toolkit just got easier thanks to a new tool.
apple.news

GitHub - installaware/AGPT: Apple Game Porting Toolkit Installer

Apple Game Porting Toolkit Installer. Contribute to installaware/AGPT development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com
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Ah-ha! Your post caught my eye so I dived in to find out what it was all about.

This looks like a WINE wrapper. Or am I mistaken?

True WINE needs help badly, but I wonder how installaware compares with Crossover which I've used for years, and WinOnX which I haven't but is similar if less polished.

I've not tried Sonoma PB so guess I have to wait to find out!

 
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UtterDisbelief said:
This looks like a WINE wrapper. Or am I mistaken?
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I read somewhere that the Crossover team were involved with this. I can?t remember the source of that piece of info, worth a google search.
 

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I read somewhere that the Crossover team were involved with this. I can?t remember the source of that piece of info, worth a google search.
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Well I'm on the Codeweavers mailing list but I may have missed any announcements. I do know they are now incorporating WINE 8.01 in their latest releases - v23 just released.

The basic Crossover install is now over 1GB, so a pretty chunky app!

Works on AS too, so is a great way to run Windows x86/64 apps on ARM.

It will be interesting to see how Apple code and WINE work together ...

 
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@UtterDisbelief my mistake the toolkit is sourced from crossover.

Apple?s Game Porting Toolkit is Wine ? OSnews

www.osnews.com
 
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@UtterDisbelief my mistake the toolkit is sourced from crossover.

Apple?s Game Porting Toolkit is Wine ? OSnews

www.osnews.com
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Ah, thanks for the heads-up on that.

Release v23 of Crossover now includes DirectX 12 support, I understand. That's got to help. I've yet to upgrade though, still on v22.

Crossover, and therefore WINE which Codeweavers feeds back into, can work amazingly well ... or not at all. I guess that's down to what "tricks" Windows coders use to get their apps and games working a certain way.

I find it remarkable that Crossover sits on top of Rosetta II and then runs Windows X86/64 apps on ARM so well. My personal favourite Windows app was released in 2000. Yes, 2000. And it has run perfectly, and never crashed on Apple AS. That's better than it ever did on Windows native.
 
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@UtterDisbelief Hi. I'm not sure if I'm doing this correctly, but the file browser did find my attached Windows Steam Library with Destiny 2 and Microsoft Flight Simulator. They didn't boot obviously, but I'm feeling positive. Is there a wrapper for Wine other than command line?.




 
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@UtterDisbelief Hi. I'm not sure if I'm doing this correctly, but the file browser did find my attached Windows Steam Library with Destiny 2 and Microsoft Flight Simulator. They didn't boot obviously, but I'm feeling positive. Is there a wrapper for Wine other than command line?.View attachment 572302
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Hi there.

Well, for an alternative, Crossover has a much neater implementation of WINE than vanilla WINE does. Trouble is you have to pay for it, though there is a trial version.

The difference is that Crossover uses "Bottles" (Bottles of WINE etc ) These sit in the Applications Support/Crossover/Bottles folder and contain a bespoke version of Windows for each app. Or you can install more than one. Your choice. Much less clutter and you can back-up and delete bottles without harming any other part of the system.

The latest supports DirectX 12 so I guess that's good enough for Steam and MFS.

Here's a screengrab from the Supported Apps forum over at Codeweavers:



Gives you some idea how well things work, BUT as you can see the star ratings relate to older versions of Crossover. So not always up to date.

The other wrapper-type WINE I know of is WinOnX from the App Store but I haven't tried it as yet and it was last updated 4-years ago anyway.

 
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